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Cassus
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PostSubject: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeThu Apr 30, 2009 1:25 pm

I recently played the Holy Well and it seemed... well... almost irrelevant. KJ has a material impact on the outcome of the game, but except for an occasional disable and heal (the latter can be overcome by one spell from the Colossi) the Well seems to do nothing. Perhaps I just don't know how to use it... any advice? KJ can't defile, but he can solo half the human villages. It might imbalance the game if the well was much stronger, but if that's the case it should be overhauled-- the Well player need something to DO.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeThu Apr 30, 2009 1:29 pm

I used to be slaying colossi with the Well.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 2:01 am

Yea but for some reason, almost all Well players seem to feel this way, so i have to fix it.
Now Cas, if you could suggest sthg...

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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 2:03 am

People think it's boring because they don't know how to use it and therefore can't damage the colossi. Would you like thinking you'll be healing allies the whole game and nothing else?
Add atleast 1 evil spell so it looks like it's damaging)
Who would think of using holy light on a colossus? Those who don't get bored cuz they notice they can damage someone lol.
Hope you get what I mean.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 2:29 am

Yea i get it... though its clearly written, people just wont think about it...
About time i add the sanctuary spell.

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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 2:30 am

The one that makes them hurt themselves? That's nice
Better make it look like a double-edged sword cuz I also don't like how the spells look... I'm a destructive type, not healing... as most people in Bnet.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 2:56 pm

I noticed the 300 damage/cast Holy Light, but again-- it's almost irrelevant. Even if you followed a single Colossus around casting it as often as you could, In the Name of Chaos at level 1 (not to mention KJ's 200hp/sec regen buff) can more than overcome it. What if you gave the Well some ability derived from "Summon Spirit of Vengeance"? It'd have to be renamed, and I think invulnerability would be a bit much, but the ability to convert allied dead into attackers would definitely keep the Well occupied.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 3:01 pm

Or, it could just resurrect a few allies?

Anyways when i create the Well incarnate (the faerie model) i'll deal with the Well's spells. It's gonna be much more interactive.

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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeFri May 01, 2009 3:06 pm

Well, resurrection is one option, but that essentiailly means it can only do good by raising units summoned by the defenders. Spirit of Vengeance would give the Well control of the raise units, and it could be targeted on any allied bodies-- including formerly helpless villagers. Just a thought.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeSat May 02, 2009 12:27 am

Yeah but the Holy Well shouldn't be an attacker as much as it is a healer.
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeSat May 02, 2009 2:28 am

Holy <> Pacifist. Healing is one aspect, but when you get right down to it "holy" can be assigned to anything, including bringing slain allies back to battle the demons. Seriously-- no one complains that KJ's healing ability isn't evil, right?
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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeSat May 02, 2009 2:34 am

Yea holy =/= strictly healing.
In Magic the Gathering, a card game whose lore i like alot, and took as inspiration for some of my spells,
tehre are 5 colors, white being the "holy" one. Well it has alot of heals, but it also has armageddon and God's anger/fury/whatever.
Those last 2 spells respectively destroy all the lands and all the units ingame. Which is pretty much far from healing lolz.
Was just an example.

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PostSubject: Re: The Well   The Well Icon_minitimeSat May 02, 2009 3:40 am

Yeah I know that Holy can be a destroyer of Unholy but Holy is more like healer than destroyer you know...
And the "healing" spell of Kil is more like giving him regeneration and making him faster, not casting heal lol
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